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Thursday, October 03, 2024

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(Mad Magazine 1968)

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  1. It started with politicians capitalizing on, and motivated by, centuries-old animosity specifically against Jews, repeating and amplifying centuries-old lies and libels specifically about Jews, because Hitler was firmly convinced that Jews represented a unique danger peculiar unto themselves. Yes, the Nazis murdered other groups as well, but the Holocaust itself was a continuation and amplification, with modern technology, of the uniquely continuous and relentless historical persecution of one specific people. It cannot be understood, or honestly discussed, without always emphasizing that point front-and-center.

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    1. To add some historial context to your comment, expulsion of Jews happened 41 time throughout European history before the 20th century: Expulsions of Jews from European States
      Mainz, 1012
      Upper Bavaria, 1442
      Naples, 1533
      France, 1182
      Netherlands, 1444
      Italy, 1540
      Upper Bavaria, 1276
      Brandenburg, 1446
      Naples, 1541
      England, 1290
      Mainz 1462
      Prague, 1541
      France, 1306
      Mainz, 1483
      Genoa, 1550
      France, 1322
      Warsaw, 1483
      Bavaria, 1551
      Saxony, 1349
      Spain, 1492
      Prague, 1557
      Hungary, 1360
      Italy, 1492
      Papal States, 1569
      Belgium, 1370
      Lithuania, 1495
      Hungary 1582
      Slovakia, 1380
      Portugal, 1496
      Hamburg, 1649
      France, 1394
      Naples, 1496
      Vienna, 1669
      Austria, 1420
      Navarre, 1498
      Slovakia, 1744
      Lyons, 1420
      Nuremberg, 1498
      Moravia, 1744
      Cologne, 1424
      Brandenburg, 1510
      Bohemia, 1744
      Mainz, 1438
      Prussia, 1510
      Moscow, 1891
      Augsburg, 1439
      Genoa, 1515

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  2. I couldn't get over how casually JD Vance kept dehumanizing and making villains of immigrants. It starts there... then, one day, they come for us.

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  3. I don't think that type of bigotry will ever be wiped out, but hopefully we'll stamp it out at least a little bit.

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    1. Infidel753 and Ramon - Appalling insights and statistics. Questions - Why the Jews? Weren't the Jews God's chosen people? Isn't this God omnipotent? Isn't everything that happens part of this God's plan? Why did this God sit by and allow the expulsion and extermination of his chosen people? Just wondering...WTF

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  4. Infidel & Ramon - Thank you both.

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  5. Million: Christ-killers, and all the other labels were just incendiary language to fuel the mob (sound familiar?). The actual bottom line was to steal wealth. Accuse Jews of atrocities, then confiscate their property as you usher them to the border. All Europeans did it. For more on the topic read "A Distant Mirror" by Barbara Tuchman. Case-in-point; the English & French were at one another's throats for centuries, fighting over territory that was clearly French. At that time, what was Englands major, if not sole export? It didn't generate enough income to fuel wars, so they resorted to what they knew best - piracy. On land & sea they were seasoned. Blame jews, plunder their wealth - pay for war. The world is still finding stolen art, then arguing whether to return it to the descendants of Jewish victims.

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  6. They didn’t call Queen Isabel the Catholic of Spain for nothing ! She led the charge to rid Spain of both Jews and Moors, people who contributed much to Spain’s commerce and culture. Not to mention the Inquisition that targeted everyone.
    The Hungarian monarchs were quite adept at prosecuting Jews by compelling Jews to wear a red patch on their clothing 1279-1290, this caught the attention of Nazis who studied antisemitism in Europe to get ideas to persecute Jews. As a result of these “studies”, the Nazis had Jews wear yellow stars of David.
    The hypocrites of today who say they love Israel, and then turn around with stories of Jews aiming lasers to cause fires in California, claiming certain Jews are not Jewish enough, or as some believe, when Jesus comes back, the Jews will HAVE to become Christian.
    And so it goes ! -Rj

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    1. Rj - The Nazis also studies how the U.S. managed its segregation of blacks.

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    2. "They didn’t call Queen Isabel the Catholic of Spain for nothing ! She led the charge to rid Spain of both Jews and Moors, people who contributed much to Spain’s commerce and culture. Not to mention the Inquisition that targeted everyone." - That is partially correct, yet when we take an event and view and judge from a value system that is centuries removed, we can od course condemn it. But, in doing that you're also doing easily the most forward looking monarch a massive disservice. If you know that the inquisition was allowed to operate in some, but not all Spanish kingdoms, you must also know that the Crown also limited who could and could not be brought before them for questioning. Women who made love potions and charms, witches whom the general populace saw as a bit crazy could not be tried. Also, as I mentioned above, not all kingdoms before the reunification allowed the inquisition to operate. It gets even more interesting when the Holy Inquisition established itself in Cartagena de Indias: no indigenous man or woman could be examined or tried by the inquisition. It was charged with examining Spaniards, free blacks and African slaves. Like most modern operators, where the law is inconvenient to profit, the Inquisition had to back off; case in point, quite a few African slave miners were accused and called before inquisitors. The mine owner(s) complained to the viceroy, maintaining that the slaves were necessary and indispensable. Case closed. Records state, and this was backed up by an author on the topic who personally conveyed the info to me; in Indias, the Inquisition was operating with too few inquisitors for them to be a looming presence. Back to Isabel la Católica: You know that 8-hour workday that seems to have taken root in the 1930s? She decreed it in 1504; along with children under the age of 14 could not work outside the home. The workday was 4 hours in the morning and 4 in the afternoon. Work on Sunday was forbidden to all. She decreed the Spaniards should marry indigenous women and vice versa. Women were not to work past the 4th month pf pregnancy. Encomenderos had to pay the indigenous people, provide clothing and housing, and provide access to hearing mass and taking communion. Unlike the English, French, Dutch and USAmerican slave states, slaves were not forbidden to learn to read & write plus a slave could buy his or her freedom. And, because they were encouraged to marry; couples could not be separated for sale. The children of slaves could have their freedom if it was purchased at the baptismal font. All of her decrees were added and compiled into the Laws of Burgos of 1510, later enhanced in 1529(?). The Spanish empire lasted 300 years; the Catholic kings, Fernando & Isabel, 5 Hapsburgs, 4 Borbón - in total it was ~12. None of them ever cancelled any of her decrees. It was until the various American revolutions that the status of indigenous, African slave, free blacks and mulato changed for the worse. So no, the inquisition did not have the clout that it had in the German free states, Italy, etc.The rise of Lutheranism and Calvinism, along with the Dutch cults ushered in dark and dangerous times where the above held sway.

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  7. As the for the bigots.
    They could get rid of all the non-whites in the USA, and they would still be miserable. The bigots always need and require a scapegoat, they literally get off on it ! The bigots would then do what they did before, when in there eyes, the USA was mostly white; tear into other white people for not being of the “correct” religion or from a “proper” country. The bigot has to be called out on the floor by the decent.
    -Rj

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  8. "The Nazis also studies how the U.S. managed its segregation of blacks." James Q. Whitman goes into detail on what the Nazis learned by studying the USA legal methods of segregation in his book: "Hitler's American Model" The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law.

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  9. Ramón - Wow, thank you for the history lesson!

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Nice you must be or delete your ass I will.