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with such health policies, one only has to hope to always be well and never need anything.
ReplyDeleteXersex - Absolutely.
ReplyDeleteThat's ridiculous, isn't it?
ReplyDeletewhkattk - It most certainly is.
ReplyDeleteWhen as a Canadian living in Montreal and see all those insurances advertising on USA's TV chanels, I thank God I live here in a country where being sick or need to go in an hospital for any surgery or other care is «FREE».
ReplyDeleteYes, we pay income taxes but it's not only for universal healthcare but also for all what federal and provincial governement have to take care of like roads, army, postal service, police etc...
At $40 000/year my rate is around 15% of income taxes for both of federal and provincial together.
NO need to pay any insurance companies to cover my health expenses.
Going to my doctor or having a surgery in an hospital as I had in 2016 for a colon cancer with 4 days in a hospital room I hd NO charges for it.
JiEL - Canada is so sensible. 15% is not that much. Everything is free for me as well because of my low income and HIV status. It should be that way for everyone no matter what.
ReplyDeleteFor sure that IF USA could put in place such a «universal health care system» ALL those insurance companies will fight back and it'll be hard to put in place such a policy but not undoable.
ReplyDeleteBack in the 70's, our provincial government did put in place a universal car insurance law that makes us covered for any physical injuries to us and any other one if a car accident happens. This is also a no-fault system too.
You can imagine that the insurance comapanies didn't like it because their part of it was only to pay for the car damages.
Now the worse issues were from all the lawyers who were making lot of money to sue in court the other people victims of a car accident.
I know it because my uncle Maurice was that kind of lawyer and did loose a lot of money with this policy of no fault and that the government law did take care of it.
How we pay for that part of our car insurance?
Well each year when we pay for our licence plate it include that insurance.
It's always a question of MONEY and power.
BTW I saw yesterday another, GRRRR, mass shooting in Boulder Colorado.
Again, and again after Atlanta's one, weapon control is AGAIN coming in the scene.
How many other gun deaths will it takes to stop selling those killing machines?
As one said on CNN, never the GOP senators will vote to end that lucrative market and worse to overide that damn Second Amendment.
It's like stupidity is slaming USA as over 542 000 dead of COVID is now on the record and must add guns victims to that.
JIEL - You hit the nail on the head: power and money. Insurance company lobbyists and gun lobbyists. I'm afraid gun violence will continue as long as repugliCONs hold office.
ReplyDeleteRick, Can I ask how old this quotation is? And you don’t actually believe this guys’ propaganda, do you? I hope you are not a fan?
ReplyDeleteAlthough a large percentage of the world’s developed nations do have Universal Government Funded Health Care Systems, these systems would collapse, if not supported by a Private Health Care Sector, which is funded by For Profit (publicly listed on the relevant countries stock exchange) Health Insurers.
I live in Australia and will use it as an example. Australia, although having a Universal Government Funded Health Care System (where every citizen is guaranteed eventual health care treatment), relies upon Private Health Care, which is funded by For Profit (in 95% of cases) Health Insurance Companies to cater for 40% of its’ hospital admissions, annually. Therefore, although Australia has a Universal Government Funded Health Care System, its’ Health Care System is truly mixed, like that of the United States. If you were to remove the Private Health Care System from Australia, the Universal Government Funded Health Care System would collapse/fail.
In addition to this (just to confuse you a little), the government in Australia, subcontracts a portion (approximately 20 %) of its’ Universal Government Funded Health Care to the Private Health Care Sector. So, technically 50 % of Australia’s hospital admissions are catered for by the Private Sector, 80% of which is funded by Publicly Listed, For Profit Health Insurers (in 95% of cases – the remaining 5 % are catered for by, Not For Profit Insurers) 20% of which is funded by the government.
In more than 90 % of the developed countries of the world, a mixed Public and Private Health Care system exists, where by more than 40 % of the countries health care needs are provided by the Private Sector and For Profit Health Insurers. If you were to remove the Private Sector from these countries, their Health Care Systems would collapse/fail. All of these countries have Universal Health Care Systems to cater for the balance of their population.
Exceptions to the rule in The Developed World. Where the Public Sector would survive, the removal of The Private Sector and related For Profit Health Insurers are, to my knowledge The United Kingdom, Canada and Sweden. In each of these countries, the Private Sector caters for less than 10% of hospital admissions.
Even socialist counties such as Germany and Russia, formerly truly Universal Government Funded Health Care Systems, are introducing a Private Sector to their Health Care Networks.
So don’t believe the hype, my Friend. Almost 100% of countries in the Developed World have For Profit Health Insurers and 90% of the countries in the Developed Worlds’ Health Care Networks would collapse/fail, without them.
Cheers Rod
ps Another country that is an exception to the rule is Norway.
ReplyDeleteCheers Rod
Rod - To answer your first question: After a bit of Googling, that quote seems to be a condensation of one of his radio programs from June 2014.
ReplyDeleteAs for believing the quote: The essence resonated with me and the way I feel about the subject.
As for being a fan: It wasn't until the research I did this morning that I remembered hearing his name, but can't say I know him enough to be a fan.
I appreciate your in-depth explanation of how healthcare works in other developed countries; I really did not know any of that.
@Rod,
ReplyDeleteWell that's not the case here in Canada and you might add Canada to Norway as our health care governement system is fulling funded by our taxes.
With education it's the major part of the provincial government budget as health and education are provincial jurisdiction. The federal government of Ottawa will redistribute some money to each provinces (11) to help finance part of those education (universities) and health care system.
The private health care side here isn't that big.
We have private clinics that can provide some medical care but they are subsidized part by the public healthcare systeme but mostly by a membeship paid by those who wants to have their cares.
If I go to those private clinics, they will take my universal health care card because the doctors there are paid by the public system. What I would have to pay are the rest as small surgeries or scans or blood tests etc.
Now with this pandemic, the government is asking those private clinics to provide some surgeries because COVID made them harder to be done in the puclic hospitals. Those clinics will be paid by the public health care system.
Many are now opening more surgery rooms to help the public system.
Hospitals and medical research centers are funded by the governments but also by private money fundations where doners can give money but in a private way.
So, your Australian system is far from ours here in Canada.
PS. When I was working as a teacher and many other workers in Canada are contributing to a «collective health insurance» paid in part by the employer and the employes. Those insurances are only complementary to the public system and help to pay dentist, optometrists, chiropractice, meds etc..
But most of the big cost in cares like surgeries and doctors are paid by our public health care system.